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. >> the committee questions the striking similarities between the 1998 al-qaeda bombing of the u.s. embassy in east africa that killed 12 americans and injured 4,000 others. in 1998, susan rice was 33 years old and running the state department abrica section. >> ambassador to kenya sent repeated messages to the state department requesting a stronger p facility because of the increased threat. and those requests, as in the case of benghazi, were turned down by the state department. >> some say rice has baggage beyond the benghazi controversy. in the mid-'90s she turned down offer by the sudanese government to arrest usama bin laden. >> she is completely unable to admit she was wrong and take an position that led to escape of the man that ultimately killed 3,000 american, usama bin laden. >> rice may face trouble from the left not because of the diplomatic record but her financial one. sunlight foundation that espouses government transisn't reports rice and her husband said to be worth more than $20 million own between a quarter and half in transcanada stock. the company tried to buil
. >> the committee questions the striking similarities between the 1998 al-qaeda bombing of the u.s. embassy in east africa that killed 12 americans and injured 4,000 others. in 1998, susan rice was 33 years old and running the state department abrica section. >> ambassador to kenya sent repeated messages to the state department requesting a stronger p facility because of the increased threat. and those requests, as in the case of benghazi, were turned down by the state department....
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qaeda. "these are assad's missiles," say the cameraman and "we have taken them." london and washington may have refused to arm these rebels. but armed they are like never before. >> suarez: and margaret warner takes the story from there. >> warner: for more on today's developments and what they mean for syria's president bashar al assad, i'm joined by andrew tabler, a senior fellow at the washington institute for near east policy. he was in rebel-held syrian border regions in mid-november. andrew, welcome back. >> thank you. >> warner: first of all, how critical is the rebel seizure of some of these surface-to-air missile from the captured army bases? >> they're answer cloutly vital. for months the syrian army has harassed rebel held territories and they've bombed them into submission. with these shoulder-fired missiles they're able to down syrian aircraft of all types and it allows the syrian opposition to have the possibility of actually saying they have a pure liberated territory which is
qaeda. "these are assad's missiles," say the cameraman and "we have taken them." london and washington may have refused to arm these rebels. but armed they are like never before. >> suarez: and margaret warner takes the story from there. >> warner: for more on today's developments and what they mean for syria's president bashar al assad, i'm joined by andrew tabler, a senior fellow at the washington institute for near east policy. he was in rebel-held syrian...
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megyn: they say we weren't entirely sure that it was al qaeda. and there was no reason to throw that name out there that early in the ballgame, and we were still investigating and may have had security reasons for not revealing all we knew. >> there were no issues in terms of revealing intelligence sources or methods by talking about an al qaeda affiliated group. it wasn't in fact a spontaneous reaction. they didn't know that with certainty, and that's what ambassador rice led the american people to believe. when they realized the that wasn't a fact. that's where the misleading occurs. you have to ask yourself why. president obama is running for reelection. he didn't want to bust the narrative he had al qaeda on the run. megyn: this is a bipartisan investigation in the senate. democrats including some top democrats have joined in the demands for more information on how this all happened and how we wound up where we are now. what are you hearing now from democrats about where we stand in this investigation. >> they certainly -- i believe they agre
megyn: they say we weren't entirely sure that it was al qaeda. and there was no reason to throw that name out there that early in the ballgame, and we were still investigating and may have had security reasons for not revealing all we knew. >> there were no issues in terms of revealing intelligence sources or methods by talking about an al qaeda affiliated group. it wasn't in fact a spontaneous reaction. they didn't know that with certainty, and that's what ambassador rice led the...
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growing crescendo of evidence that eastern libya, benghazi was becoming a kind of outlawed territory, al qaeda-related groups, radical militias there, and well-known that the place was just teaming with weapons that had been seized from the gadhafi government. it was a very dangerous brew. and there was also incidentally unclassified, open source of information. there had been a previous attack, a bomb exploded outside our benghazi mission, the british mission had been attacked, red cross mission. the british government closed its mission in benghazi. i haven't reached a conclusion but i worry that there was a lot of evidence that was not adequately responded to. >> do you think what susan rice said after the fact should be enough to prevent her from being nominated and successfully confirm ford secretary of state? >> i don't. i mean, i'm -- the question of who president obama nominates for secretary of state is obviously up to the president. that's a right he's earned by his re-election. but i have been over the intelligence, the talking points that were given to ambassador rice. i have
growing crescendo of evidence that eastern libya, benghazi was becoming a kind of outlawed territory, al qaeda-related groups, radical militias there, and well-known that the place was just teaming with weapons that had been seized from the gadhafi government. it was a very dangerous brew. and there was also incidentally unclassified, open source of information. there had been a previous attack, a bomb exploded outside our benghazi mission, the british mission had been attacked, red cross...
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that they could not sustain a coordinated attack and that there were at least tennis lammist groups or al-qaeda groups in benghazi itself. this cable essentially predicts the way in which these four americans would die. not only was security not increased, but a special security team that was in benghazi was pulled back in between that emergency meeting and the attack itself on the 11th of september. jenna: more information potentially when we get reaction from this closed door briefing, catherine. thank you for the update. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: there is some shuttle diplomacy underway right now on capitol hill. president obama sending his treasury secretary to try to break the log jam on the fiscal cliff. with the deadline rapidly approaching, both sides are hoping to pressure the other into giving up some ground as they hammer out a compromise package of tax hikes and spending cuts. treasury secretary tim geithner meeting with all four party leaders in the house and senate, but instead of sitting down with everybody in one room, geithner is meeting separately with each of them. ou
that they could not sustain a coordinated attack and that there were at least tennis lammist groups or al-qaeda groups in benghazi itself. this cable essentially predicts the way in which these four americans would die. not only was security not increased, but a special security team that was in benghazi was pulled back in between that emergency meeting and the attack itself on the 11th of september. jenna: more information potentially when we get reaction from this closed door briefing,...
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that is why as president i will make the fight against al qaeda and the taliban the top priority it should be. this is a war we have to win. >> shortly after being sworn in, president obama sent in 21,000 more troops, marked by brazen attacks by a resurgent taliban. in late 2009 president obama announced the u.s. was opting for a counter insurgency strategy known as c.o.i.n. but to succeed, he said more troops were needed. >> the 30,000 additional troops i'm announcing will deploy in the first part of 2010, so they can target the insurgency and secure key population centers. they'll increase our ability to train competent afghan security forces and to partner with them so more afghans can get into the fight. >> but there was a key flaw in the plan to train afghan forces. many of them didn't feel they had a dog in the fight. they didn't support u.s. forces and didn't trust their own government. 2010 and 2011 ended up being the bloodiest years, more than 900 killed, more than four previous years combined. a year and a half later after the surge was announced it was over, the bhous said the t
that is why as president i will make the fight against al qaeda and the taliban the top priority it should be. this is a war we have to win. >> shortly after being sworn in, president obama sent in 21,000 more troops, marked by brazen attacks by a resurgent taliban. in late 2009 president obama announced the u.s. was opting for a counter insurgency strategy known as c.o.i.n. but to succeed, he said more troops were needed. >> the 30,000 additional troops i'm announcing will deploy...
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since 2006 close to 2,500 members of the taliban, al qaeda and other extremist groups have been killed in pakistan alone. in the past three years, drones have been used extensively, releasing nearly 1,700 weapons. and nearly $9 billion will be spent on remotely controlled aircraft. the push to get drones flying over our heads right here in the u.s. >> reporter: right now only groups with special faa permission, like the u.s. customs and border protection, with operate drones in the united states. but that is going to change. congress has asked the federal aviation administration to find a se way to expand the use of drones or unmanned aerial systems domestically. >> bottom line is that by 2015, the faa has to have a comprehensive plan to open the air space to both public and private uafs. >> crop dusting to news traffic reports to surveying land to monitoring forest fires. there's a big industry pushing the federal government to open up the skies. arguing these unmanned aircraft systems are safer and less expensive. >> if you're looking at a manned helicopter that could be used for law
since 2006 close to 2,500 members of the taliban, al qaeda and other extremist groups have been killed in pakistan alone. in the past three years, drones have been used extensively, releasing nearly 1,700 weapons. and nearly $9 billion will be spent on remotely controlled aircraft. the push to get drones flying over our heads right here in the u.s. >> reporter: right now only groups with special faa permission, like the u.s. customs and border protection, with operate drones in the united...
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the talking points originally linked the attack to al qaeda. when the document was sent to the rest of the intelligence community for review, a decision was made to change al qaeda to extremists for intelligence and for legal reasons. you say you want an answer. that one has been answered in public. everybody knows. also, more questions. >> why were references to al qaeda left out? >> sir, we've known the answer to this one for nearly two whole weeks now. quote, a reason the references to al qaeda were deleted was that the information came from classified sources and the links were tenuous. john mccain going on national television as the point man for this supposed mass cover-up. he does not seem to be familiar with the basic details of the story that have been made public. the basic details of the story he is alleging was covered up. senator mccain outdid even himself when he offered this as his latest piece of smoking gun evidence that something is definitely rotten here. >> we knew within hours all the details when we got bin laden in the ra
the talking points originally linked the attack to al qaeda. when the document was sent to the rest of the intelligence community for review, a decision was made to change al qaeda to extremists for intelligence and for legal reasons. you say you want an answer. that one has been answered in public. everybody knows. also, more questions. >> why were references to al qaeda left out? >> sir, we've known the answer to this one for nearly two whole weeks now. quote, a reason the...
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they are trying to say the president did want us to know how bad the threat from al qaeda was. the decision was made to modify those talking points because we didn't want the enemy to know what was going on, not because there was an attempt to mislead the american people. >> there is a report out that ambassador susan rice has a major financial stake in the pipeline. if she is nominated, i would assume this would be a problem in her confirmation hearings. let's say she is secretary of state. wouldn't this be a conflict of interest? >> it could be. that would be a valid question in the course of if she were put forward for nomination. let's take a step back. she has complied with, it is my understanding, all of the rules and regulations to her current position. if she were to be nominated for any additional position, obviously, there again, she would follow all of the rules and regulations, not just with regard to disclosure but dealing with this as a conflict of interest if that's what they thought it was. >> nbc news reporting that chuck hagel is being vetted for a possible po
they are trying to say the president did want us to know how bad the threat from al qaeda was. the decision was made to modify those talking points because we didn't want the enemy to know what was going on, not because there was an attempt to mislead the american people. >> there is a report out that ambassador susan rice has a major financial stake in the pipeline. if she is nominated, i would assume this would be a problem in her confirmation hearings. let's say she is secretary of...
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. >> a lot of terrorists aren't al qaeda. when she said at the beginning that the key thing here is to the security failure in benghazi, she's correct. that's not susan rice's responsibility. that's the state department -- >> i know. >> susan rice is being asked to defend all kinds of stuff that's really the responsibility of the state department and the cia to explain right now. it was mainly a cia operation. >>> this afternoon in a cabinet meeting president obama answered a question from a reporter the heat, i was calling it the fried rice, the headline in the new york post, the fried rice from republicans on the hill. take a look at the president's way of handling this today. >> mr. president, do you think it's being fair to susan rice. >> thanks, guys. susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she's done at u.s. u.n. >> you saw hillary clinton leading the applause. really, you know, to be fair about it, the officer in charge was the state department and the cia. you're going to take the u.n. ambassador,
. >> a lot of terrorists aren't al qaeda. when she said at the beginning that the key thing here is to the security failure in benghazi, she's correct. that's not susan rice's responsibility. that's the state department -- >> i know. >> susan rice is being asked to defend all kinds of stuff that's really the responsibility of the state department and the cia to explain right now. it was mainly a cia operation. >>> this afternoon in a cabinet meeting president obama...
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you were warned that al-qaeda was gaining a foothold in libya. what do you make about the reference to al-qaeda, those that were deleted? >> well, if these talking points went to multiple agencies, probably a dozen agencies and dozens of people touched them. and nobody ever really took final responsibility for clearing them. it is a sort of typical bureaucracy fumble. the important thing, what we're talking about, while we continue to talk about the talking points, what has been lost in this. what you say, prior to this event it was clear the terrorists were gaining a foothold in eastern libya. and why wasn't more done to give them the protection that they needed at the benghazi compound? this substance was lost, in the debate on the talking points, and that is the important issue to me. >> thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you. >>> rebel fighters in syria claiming a major victory. they say they have shot down three regime military aircraft in the past 24 hours, including a mig fighter jet. if it is true, the military may be taking hits f
you were warned that al-qaeda was gaining a foothold in libya. what do you make about the reference to al-qaeda, those that were deleted? >> well, if these talking points went to multiple agencies, probably a dozen agencies and dozens of people touched them. and nobody ever really took final responsibility for clearing them. it is a sort of typical bureaucracy fumble. the important thing, what we're talking about, while we continue to talk about the talking points, what has been lost in...
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al-qaeda is on the rise. they've reconstituted themselves in many places. they're all over the middle east, including pouring into syria as we speak, as well as libya, iraq, etc. >> greta: what did she say? >> she said, well, maybe i should have said core, that we have decimated core al-qaeda. well, first of all, that's a directly vastly different from what she actually said. number two is that really is kind of meaningless to take out core al-qaeda. but again, i want to emphasize many of these questions are right at the doorstep of the president of the united states. why did he on the 25th, two weeks later, talk to the united nations about hateful videos? why is he that he told "60 minutes" that he did not know what was the cause of the attack on benghazi when he claimed in the debate with mitt romney that he had called it a terrorist act at the white house, which he had not done so. he continued to go on various shows talking about hateful videos and not knowing -- >> greta: entertainment shows i might add. for the most part entertainment shows. all right
al-qaeda is on the rise. they've reconstituted themselves in many places. they're all over the middle east, including pouring into syria as we speak, as well as libya, iraq, etc. >> greta: what did she say? >> she said, well, maybe i should have said core, that we have decimated core al-qaeda. well, first of all, that's a directly vastly different from what she actually said. number two is that really is kind of meaningless to take out core al-qaeda. but again, i want to emphasize...
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you were warning al qaeda was gaining a foothold in libya. what do you make of the reason why those direct references to al qaeda were deleted? >> you know, it's not -- oftentimes, wolf, these talksing points went to multiple agencies, probably a dozen agencies and dozens of people touched them and nobody ever took final responsibility for the clearing of them, sort of a typical bureaucratic fumble. the more frustrating thing, what we're not talking about. we continue to talk about the talking point, what's been lost is what you say. prior to the events it was clear terrorists were gaining a foothold in eastern libya, where wasn't more done to prevent the attack, give them the security they needed? the substance is sort of lost and the debate about the talking points and that's the far more important issue to me. >> fran, raul, thanks very much for joining me. >> thanks very much. >> pleasure. >>> rebel fighters in syria claiming a major victory. they say they have shot down three regime military aircraft in the past 24 hours, including a mig
you were warning al qaeda was gaining a foothold in libya. what do you make of the reason why those direct references to al qaeda were deleted? >> you know, it's not -- oftentimes, wolf, these talksing points went to multiple agencies, probably a dozen agencies and dozens of people touched them and nobody ever took final responsibility for the clearing of them, sort of a typical bureaucratic fumble. the more frustrating thing, what we're not talking about. we continue to talk about the...
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and they are the ones who removed any mention of al qaeda, not the white house. the president defended ambassador rice at his cabinet meeting today. listen. >> susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she has done. [ applause ] >> shepard: while the president has not nominated anybody to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state. she has said she will not stay on for the second term. but the president has called criticism of ambassador rice outrageous and told her critics to go after him instead. that may be what is happening. catherine herridge in the d.c. newsroom tonight. catherine. >> thank you, shepard. rice has met with six senators, five republicans and one independent so far. she has apparently failed to reassure them that she is a responsible choice for secretary of state and not as one critic said drinking every drop of the administration's kool-aid. >> the president is going to have to make the decision about who he nominates to be secretary of state. hopefully it will be someone that is able to both show independence but have th
and they are the ones who removed any mention of al qaeda, not the white house. the president defended ambassador rice at his cabinet meeting today. listen. >> susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she has done. [ applause ] >> shepard: while the president has not nominated anybody to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state. she has said she will not stay on for the second term. but the president has called criticism of ambassador rice outrageous and told...
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decimated al qaeda, and leaders saying al qaeda seems to be okay even though bin laden is dead, they're still out there and all of these sympathizers. >> yes, the arab spring is almost two years in the making and it's been a complicated process. if al-qaeda, the full extent of it's ability to attack the united states, killing four americans, in countries -- many countries in the middle east where these kinds of activities are happening, it's not a very good score for al qaeda. they were not a -- it was an easy target, it was overrun. so i don't think you can say al-qaeda is back. they managed to attack and kill four americans in the middle eastern country. you know, certainly, it's worrisome, but it doesn't mean that al qaeda in any way reestablished itself. >> peter, thanks very much, fran, thanks to you as well. they lead some of the countries biggest companies, and they just wrapped up a major meeting at the white house about the so called fiscal cliff, they met with the president, we'll find out what they talked about the. the ceo of goldman sachs is here. . one expert tell lgs us w
decimated al qaeda, and leaders saying al qaeda seems to be okay even though bin laden is dead, they're still out there and all of these sympathizers. >> yes, the arab spring is almost two years in the making and it's been a complicated process. if al-qaeda, the full extent of it's ability to attack the united states, killing four americans, in countries -- many countries in the middle east where these kinds of activities are happening, it's not a very good score for al qaeda. they were...
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and in that meeting, what happened is he told the senators that it was actually the fbi who took al qaeda references out of the unclassified talking points. only to call back several hours later saying, oops, i was wrong, it wasn't the fbi, it was the cia. here is what lindsey graham said about that. >> i can't help but feel incredibly disappointed that we were told something at 10:00 a.m. that couldn't withstand scrutiny for six hours. and is totally inconsistent with what we were told the day before. we have five different explanations of who changed the talking points to take out benghazi. and four different reasons. this is becoming a joke. >> so what these meetings least this particular issue has done is added fuel to the fire and it is not like, you needed to add any more fuel to the fire, especially for senators like lindsey graham who is already really publicly outraged about a lot of issues dealing with the benghazi attack. >> this is just one more. one more. dana bash, thank you. >>> after trashing the hit tv show "two and a half men," the actor angus jones, now back tracking fr
and in that meeting, what happened is he told the senators that it was actually the fbi who took al qaeda references out of the unclassified talking points. only to call back several hours later saying, oops, i was wrong, it wasn't the fbi, it was the cia. here is what lindsey graham said about that. >> i can't help but feel incredibly disappointed that we were told something at 10:00 a.m. that couldn't withstand scrutiny for six hours. and is totally inconsistent with what we were told...
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ties to al qaeda were involved. and then yet, went on the sunday show and left a very different impression. let's not forget that on those sunday shows on "meet the press" as well as "face the nation" she also made the statement that al qaeda was decimated. and so it left a misleading impression to the american people. i was also troubled that they knew by the 21st the acting director of the cia said that the information about the reaction to the video and the protest was wrong and that no one corrected it, including ambassador rice, even though she had left that impression on every single network, op every sunday show. that left me very concerned about that as well. >> did she say to you that she had reviewed intelligence specifically about benghazi, that had the additional information? she couldn't say so publicly. had she reviewed that intelligence? did she affirm that to you or are you assuming that she had? >> she did review it. >> so, in other words, she knew better than what you're saying that she knew better
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but she went on and basically defied what the president of libya said when he said al qaeda was involved. she said no. she continued to go back to this story that had to do with a spontaneous demonstration and about a bad video. and the bottom line is for secretary of state, you want somebody who actually can think about these issues, makes reasoned decisions, and asks tough questions. and i think she has failed that. and to me she has disqualified herself for secretary of state. >> here's what some democrats had to say about the rice nomination. let me play this for you, senator. >> i think it wouldn't be fair to disqualify her based on what she said on those sunday morning shows. >> i find it mind-boggling that some of the gop senators continue to go after her. it's completely unjustified. and i can only conclude that having failed to deny the president a second term they now want to deny him the cabinet of his choice. >> congressman schiff isn't the only one suggesting that opponents are playing politics with this. in addition to that, look, you've been on sunday talk show, you know h
but she went on and basically defied what the president of libya said when he said al qaeda was involved. she said no. she continued to go back to this story that had to do with a spontaneous demonstration and about a bad video. and the bottom line is for secretary of state, you want somebody who actually can think about these issues, makes reasoned decisions, and asks tough questions. and i think she has failed that. and to me she has disqualified herself for secretary of state. >>...
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and director of intelligence, whether the line on al qaeda as a threat and all of those things, segue back to this book, all of that's in here, not to scare the american people, but to bring them up to speed on what's happening in crowds like the so-called fast and serious operation to go on and coverup with executive privilege. this is a scary administration. >> can you give me 20 seconds on what qualifies as an assault weapon, which this administration would like to ban? because a lot of people they're confused and so am i, frankly, i don't know wh an assault weapon is. >> they're going to look at a weapon with api pistol grip, an more and a few rounds and a flash suppresser. even though it's like my .22 or the automatic shotgun i'm giving to one of my grandsons at christmas. i'm one of the folks who applied for one of the permits to buy a gun. what we don't want to have is a requirement to register those firearms and that's what has the got people buying so many of ttem. stuart: that's an important thing, they're require to register, is that the so-called assault weapons they must
and director of intelligence, whether the line on al qaeda as a threat and all of those things, segue back to this book, all of that's in here, not to scare the american people, but to bring them up to speed on what's happening in crowds like the so-called fast and serious operation to go on and coverup with executive privilege. this is a scary administration. >> can you give me 20 seconds on what qualifies as an assault weapon, which this administration would like to ban? because a lot...
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why sit on the fence and turn it over to the rad cat islamists and the al qaeda which may be the case. bill: there is a power vacuum in the world. that's clear to see. jack keane, i appreciate your analysis. martha: coming up, a lurid tale of money and murder as a woman goes on trial accused of defriending a jackpot -- befriending a jackpot winner. she conned him out of the money and then she killed them. the drama that's unfolding in court. >> i'm telling you not to do it because it am not in your best interest. you are now made aware of that. no, ma'am. bill: the half of the tv show "2 1/2 men" releasing statement. a teenager said his religious awakening affected his attitude. he says the show is and i appropriate with its sexual innuendo. he said he apologizes if his comments show disrespect to my colleagues. i never intended that. that's a redo. martha: the murder trial fear man accused of cozying up and killing a big lottery winner is about to get underway. bill, what happened? >> reporter: this should have been a wonderful story. rags to riches. a guy takes a quick pick. within
why sit on the fence and turn it over to the rad cat islamists and the al qaeda which may be the case. bill: there is a power vacuum in the world. that's clear to see. jack keane, i appreciate your analysis. martha: coming up, a lurid tale of money and murder as a woman goes on trial accused of defriending a jackpot -- befriending a jackpot winner. she conned him out of the money and then she killed them. the drama that's unfolding in court. >> i'm telling you not to do it because it am...
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consulate in benghazi was spontaneous and not al qaeda related. rice is most likely hoping this round of meetings goes better than yesterday's. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. the bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> she misled the american public. i think that she would say that. she'd have to say that. >> our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is on capitol hill. a question for you. how can someone who wants to be america's top diplomat go into a meeting and make things worse? >> reporter: it is inexplicable is the honest answer to that question, carol. now, let's just be clear here. the people she had a meeting with, though, yesterday are her most rabid critics, those three senators you just played right before coming to me, so they definitely, you know, not that they wouldn't give her a fair hearing but they have been very, very critical of her from the start saying that they would potentially block her nomination even before talking to her. the mee
consulate in benghazi was spontaneous and not al qaeda related. rice is most likely hoping this round of meetings goes better than yesterday's. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. the bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> she misled the american public. i think that she would say that. she'd have to say that. >> our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is on capitol hill. a question for...
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, we're tipping al qaeda off? i think that al qaeda knows that we certainly have pursued them around the world, and so i just -- this doesn't make any sense to me. >> a lot of this i think it's fair to say doesn't make seine answer to a lot of people. how do you predict that this ends, do you think that republicans will stand in her way and she won't get the job? go with respect to senator ayotte, what the intelligence community was trying to protect was its sources. people whose lives were on the line. and they were making a careful judgment about what they can say publicly that might endanger their sources of information. in terms of the future of ambassador rice i don't know what the president's plans are. she's done an extraordinary good job as ambassador to the united nations. >> the assistant majority leader of the not dick durbin joining us this morning. nice to see you this morning. >> thank you, soledad. >> still ahead on "starting point," bad news for a nation obsessed with bacon. god, bad news. christin
, we're tipping al qaeda off? i think that al qaeda knows that we certainly have pursued them around the world, and so i just -- this doesn't make any sense to me. >> a lot of this i think it's fair to say doesn't make seine answer to a lot of people. how do you predict that this ends, do you think that republicans will stand in her way and she won't get the job? go with respect to senator ayotte, what the intelligence community was trying to protect was its sources. people whose lives...
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. -- we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved. they knew by the 22nd that the information given to them was wrong, yet they have not cleared that up with the american people to date in saying they were wrong, including the president of the united states. host: the new hampshire senator went on to say she will block any clinton's successor, because she wants more information about the benghazi attacks. what is next on that front? since an individual senator can put a hold on a nomination. that could prevent this from going forward. we have seen this in previous cases. if we saw this in the bush and administration would john bolton. we have seen it in a couple of cases in the obama administration where nominee for a high government post was held up for a long time. it all depends in the end on whether kelly ayotte gets any allies from her fellow republicans on this, because the way you could overcome her individual opposition is to get about five republicans that the democrats would need to break any filibuster that she might muster
. -- we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved. they knew by the 22nd that the information given to them was wrong, yet they have not cleared that up with the american people to date in saying they were wrong, including the president of the united states. host: the new hampshire senator went on to say she will block any clinton's successor, because she wants more information about the benghazi attacks. what is next on that front? since an individual senator can put a hold on a...
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qaeda references, not by the zewe we had been told by the director of national intelligence came from the intelligence committee. it's worse than when she went up. she'll see bob corker, known to be bipartisan from tennessee and i don't think it'll be quite as vitriolic as yesterday. she felt she wanted to clear her name and she had been maligned and just been on morning television. that the real issue as jay carney was trying to say what happened before, what happened during but not what happened on sunday morning television programs and there is an investigation that hillary clinton has commissioned. it is a legally mandated investigation being led by none other than the former chairman, joint chief, mike ullin and co-chaired from mike pickering and deputy secretary of state. it's going to be coming out in mid-december and reported to congress and i understand it's going to be very tough on the state department for not ramping up security which many people believe could be the real issue here, not what was said on sunday morning television. but the white house is fighting for her. >
qaeda references, not by the zewe we had been told by the director of national intelligence came from the intelligence committee. it's worse than when she went up. she'll see bob corker, known to be bipartisan from tennessee and i don't think it'll be quite as vitriolic as yesterday. she felt she wanted to clear her name and she had been maligned and just been on morning television. that the real issue as jay carney was trying to say what happened before, what happened during but not what...
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we're tipping al qaeda off? i think that al qaeda knows that we certainly have pursued them around the world and so i just -- this doesn't make any sense to me. >> is it your opinion, assessment, senator, that ambassador rice deliberately on that sunday morning misled the american public? >> well, certainly she misled the american public. i think that she would say that. she would have to say that because she began our meeting today admitting that representations about the video and the protests were wrong and the impression left with the american people was misleading. i don't know that i am in a position to question her motives but it's deeply troubling to me that someone of that important position would go on every major news network knowing that she had obviously previously reviewed other classified reports that left a different impression with the omission of the important reference to al qaeda. and also saying on those shows that al qaeda had been decimated. >> bottom line, senator, if the president nomina
we're tipping al qaeda off? i think that al qaeda knows that we certainly have pursued them around the world and so i just -- this doesn't make any sense to me. >> is it your opinion, assessment, senator, that ambassador rice deliberately on that sunday morning misled the american public? >> well, certainly she misled the american public. i think that she would say that. she would have to say that because she began our meeting today admitting that representations about the video and...
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he says rice denied al qaeda's lead role in the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi that cost the lives of ambassador chris stevens and three others and she did so knowing it was true. well, the man who defeated mccain in the 2008 presidential campaign takes this as a personal shot at him. how will he respond? will he name ambassador rice his new secretary of state to replace hillary clinton? will he meet mccain's challenge head on and send rice up to the capitol to go face-to-face with the enemy? tonight we study the battlefield and the firepower of the two sides in this year-ending fire fight. mccain sure wants this fight, but do his fellow republicans? do they want an older white guy taking on the competence of a young woman of color, a rhodes scholar of solid reputation? most important, what end does the president want for this match of fact and wits? i'm joined by michael o'hanlon of the brookings institution and jonathan landay. the intelligence reporter for mcclatchy newspapers. michael, thank you for this. i want to get to the facts. am
he says rice denied al qaeda's lead role in the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi that cost the lives of ambassador chris stevens and three others and she did so knowing it was true. well, the man who defeated mccain in the 2008 presidential campaign takes this as a personal shot at him. how will he respond? will he name ambassador rice his new secretary of state to replace hillary clinton? will he meet mccain's challenge head on and send rice up to the capitol to go face-to-face with...
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they pulled al-qaeda out of the talking points and pulled the protest out of the talking points and she still went with it. she still went with it and told the american people everything she was told to say. >> bob: learn how the process works. c.i.a. is one of a number of intelligence agencies that put talk points. they didn't have the agre agreement. she got factual in their view, intelligence community view of what happened. she gave it to the sunday talk show. she made a mistake and said she made a mistak miswhat more u ask for? do you think he is went up and there purposefully lied? >> brian: shouldn't you do your research? >> andrea: yes. she knew there were conflicting accounts. why push anyone from the administration out to say anything at all. she should have done her research. maybe she is not a liar. maybe she is incatch tent. one thing that the senator trying to block you. it was great what mccain did. getting the heat. and republicans were being sexist. and let me give her a fair shake. john bolton was up for administration. they pulled the same stunt. >> dana: i think she
they pulled al-qaeda out of the talking points and pulled the protest out of the talking points and she still went with it. she still went with it and told the american people everything she was told to say. >> bob: learn how the process works. c.i.a. is one of a number of intelligence agencies that put talk points. they didn't have the agre agreement. she got factual in their view, intelligence community view of what happened. she gave it to the sunday talk show. she made a mistake and...
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qaeda work involved in the attacks in the embassy, and clearly the information given to the american people was wrong. in fact, ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong. i don't understand the cia said clearly that information was wrong, and they knew by the 22nd that it was wrong. they have not clear that up with the american people, and coming forward in saying they were wrong, including the president of the united states also talking about the fact that it was a reaction to the video. what troubles me also is that obviously the changes made, the unclassified talking points were misleading, but just to be clear, when you have a position where your and ambassador to the united nations, you go well beyond classified talking points in your daily responsibilities, and that is troubling to me as well, i am a person that got -- does not know anything about this and i am going on every single show. is part of our responsibility as an ambassador to the united nations to review much more than that. >> before anybody could make an intelligent decision about someone involved in beng
qaeda work involved in the attacks in the embassy, and clearly the information given to the american people was wrong. in fact, ambassador rice said today absolutely it was wrong. i don't understand the cia said clearly that information was wrong, and they knew by the 22nd that it was wrong. they have not clear that up with the american people, and coming forward in saying they were wrong, including the president of the united states also talking about the fact that it was a reaction to the...
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has been a skeptic of what we could succeed through military strength in a region where the tal band al-qaeda -- the taliban seems enmeshed and woven into the fabric of society. what have we accomplished? >> the book traces this one outpost from 2006 until 2009 when overrun by the taliban. in 2007-2008, that's a part of the narrative when there actually is very tangible achievement and the u.s. and the afghan government is willing to win over the local populous and get them to start casting out the terrorists in the villages and hamlets and this one lieutenant, alex newsom who was in afghanistan early this year doing special operations missions, says that when he went back to this area, the people there all remembered him. they were still anti-taliban. they were still willing to fight. he was very encouraged. as i said, he's in the minority there. but it wasn't as if all of these individuals, all of a sudden became taliban. mainly they don't want anyone bothering them. >> eliot: that's the question. no doubt. our presence there can have that affirmative effect. was it possible -- is it possib
has been a skeptic of what we could succeed through military strength in a region where the tal band al-qaeda -- the taliban seems enmeshed and woven into the fabric of society. what have we accomplished? >> the book traces this one outpost from 2006 until 2009 when overrun by the taliban. in 2007-2008, that's a part of the narrative when there actually is very tangible achievement and the u.s. and the afghan government is willing to win over the local populous and get them to start...
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explanatio and revision comes from cia sitting director who told senators the fbi removed references of al-qaeda from the talking points, but at four o'clock eastern time today, cia officials said morale misspoke and that, in fact, the cia deleted references, not the fbi. stay tuned, as they say. joining us now, former u.s. ambassador not united nations, john bolten, andrew mccarthy, former federal prosecutor who convicted the blind shake, and the author of "spring fever." great to have you both here. andrew, your reaction to what is playing out in the nation's capital. this is the nation's capital -- capital of a superpower; right? >> so they s. a lot of misspeaking going on, it would appear. you know, look, it's been obvious from the start here that they tried to play out the idea of this video nobody saw of this being the cause of the atrocity of what happened in benghazi in which ur, including our ambassador, were killed. it's important to get to the bottom of it, and getting to the bottom of it, a comedy of error, should not obscure the fact this is a major advocation by the commander in ch
explanatio and revision comes from cia sitting director who told senators the fbi removed references of al-qaeda from the talking points, but at four o'clock eastern time today, cia officials said morale misspoke and that, in fact, the cia deleted references, not the fbi. stay tuned, as they say. joining us now, former u.s. ambassador not united nations, john bolten, andrew mccarthy, former federal prosecutor who convicted the blind shake, and the author of "spring fever." great to...
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she knows that it's al-qaeda affiliated attack. al-qaeda on the run is campaign proposition. that she would have known at the time is not true. the statement issued by the three senators emphasizes that there are three scandals. before, during, after. where was the president and why wasn't there help? in the aftermath of this deception this is important to emphasize that. why are you obsessing over the talking point? just today the acting c.i.a. director said at one point in the day, the f.b.i. removed the reference. six hours later it's not true. this is a new change of story. that is happening now, what? two months later. so this is very clear that what she said needs to explained and the irony is obama will keep it alive. if he nominates her. that will keep it alive. other the main stream media will walk away. now that the sex scandal is less interesting. >> bret: is a potential nomination in jeopardy and one senator seems to be saying i will hold out. >> we have to say unless graham and mccain get more converts she could get confirmed. they have to keep enough republican
she knows that it's al-qaeda affiliated attack. al-qaeda on the run is campaign proposition. that she would have known at the time is not true. the statement issued by the three senators emphasizes that there are three scandals. before, during, after. where was the president and why wasn't there help? in the aftermath of this deception this is important to emphasize that. why are you obsessing over the talking point? just today the acting c.i.a. director said at one point in the day, the f.b.i....
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decimated al qaeda. >> cnn is also told rice tried to clarify to gop senators is what she meant is al qaeda's core leadership has been decimated. gop leaders say it's proof she was putting pre-election spin before national security. >> it was unjustified to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama. three weeks before an election. >> ambassador rice, what do you say to republicans who say your comments were politically motivated? >> rice did not answer our question. she did release a statement admitting her talking points were, quote, incorrect in a ski respect. there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. while we certainly wished we had had perfect information just days after the terrorist attack, as is often the case, the intelligence assessment was involved. we stressed that neither i nor anyone else in the administration intended to mislead the american people at any stage in the process. the white house had this to say. >> the focus on some might say obsession on, comments made on sunday shows seems to me and to many to be misplaced. >> gop sena
decimated al qaeda. >> cnn is also told rice tried to clarify to gop senators is what she meant is al qaeda's core leadership has been decimated. gop leaders say it's proof she was putting pre-election spin before national security. >> it was unjustified to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama. three weeks before an election. >> ambassador rice, what do you say to republicans who say your comments were politically motivated? >> rice did...
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we knew it was an attack, and we told her not to say because we didn't want al qaeda to know we knew it at that point. the real question is why is mccain making this attack and wasting whatever political capital and reputation he has left? >> reporter: well, some people are wondering does mccain want to simply stay in the spotlight? mccain is known for foreign policy. he's known for going on sunday shows. the benghazi issue gets him back in the spotlight. everyone is talking about john mccain again. so some people wonder if there's a little bit of political opportunism there. >> i want to go back to something krystal said a minute ago. closing ranks behind susan rice because much political battle lines in this. you made the point earlier if you just looked at this without regard to benghazi and said john mccain realistically speaking, who potentially could appoint secretary of state that would agree ideological with you. realistically susan rice is as good as he can do. the consensus in the democratic party is probably to the right of it. i wonder is there any push-back from the left
we knew it was an attack, and we told her not to say because we didn't want al qaeda to know we knew it at that point. the real question is why is mccain making this attack and wasting whatever political capital and reputation he has left? >> reporter: well, some people are wondering does mccain want to simply stay in the spotlight? mccain is known for foreign policy. he's known for going on sunday shows. the benghazi issue gets him back in the spotlight. everyone is talking about john...
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anybody looking at the threats, it would jump out at you that this was an al qaeda storm in the making. i'm disappointed in our intelligence community. i think they failed in many ways. but with a little bit of inquiry and curiosity i think it is pretty clear that to explain this episode as related to a video that created a mob that turned into a riot was far afield and at the end of the day, we're going to get to the bottom of this. we have to have a system we can trust, and if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say, i don't want to give bad information. here's what i can tell you. the american people got bad information on 16 september. they got bad information from president obama days after. and the question is, should they have been giving the information at all? if you can do nothing but give bad information, isn't it better to give no information at all? my belief is, not only is the information bad, and i'm more convinced than ever that it was bad, it was unjustified to give the scenario as p
anybody looking at the threats, it would jump out at you that this was an al qaeda storm in the making. i'm disappointed in our intelligence community. i think they failed in many ways. but with a little bit of inquiry and curiosity i think it is pretty clear that to explain this episode as related to a video that created a mob that turned into a riot was far afield and at the end of the day, we're going to get to the bottom of this. we have to have a system we can trust, and if you don't know...
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qaeda. what senator ayotte and other senators have said is that was misleading because she knew in a classified way that al qaeda might have been behind it. so that is what one -- two of the reasons why at least senator ayotte said that she is troubled. and she said that she is still not ready to say that she will vote for her. not only that, but she's still -- she still has a threat to block her nomination if susan rice is nominated. >> and is that the end of it, or are there future meetings? is there going to be more consultation, or is that that? >> reporter: no, that is not that. that is the beginning of this for sure. we understand that the ambassador is likely to be back later today for more meetings. ted barrett heard from the republican from tennessee that he has a meeting with susan rice tomorrow. again, just like today's meeting. that was at the request of susan rice. she is definitely making the rounds. she's trying to explain herself. but at least with these three republican sena
qaeda. what senator ayotte and other senators have said is that was misleading because she knew in a classified way that al qaeda might have been behind it. so that is what one -- two of the reasons why at least senator ayotte said that she is troubled. and she said that she is still not ready to say that she will vote for her. not only that, but she's still -- she still has a threat to block her nomination if susan rice is nominated. >> and is that the end of it, or are there future...
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intelligence communities that made those significant changes to the talking points that took out phrases like al-qaeda, jon. jon: still so many questions left to answer. catherine herridge, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: well, both senators mccabe and ayotte will appear on fox news channel earlier today. senator ayotte will speak with megyn kelly on "america live" which comes to you right after "happening now." and then on your world, 4 p.m. eastern time, neil cavuto will talk with senator mccain, his first formal interview since today's meeting with ambassador rice, you'll want to hear what both senators have to say. jenna: new concerns right now, the president and republicans may not be able to reach a deal on that looming fiscal cliff. the president meeting with small business owners at the white house despite signs that talks are stalling on capitol hill. james rosen is live at the white house and, james, just last week folks were saying there's some optimism coming out of these talks. why now is there a feeling that maybe things respect going as well? >> reporter: let's face it, jen
intelligence communities that made those significant changes to the talking points that took out phrases like al-qaeda, jon. jon: still so many questions left to answer. catherine herridge, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: well, both senators mccabe and ayotte will appear on fox news channel earlier today. senator ayotte will speak with megyn kelly on "america live" which comes to you right after "happening now." and then on your world, 4 p.m. eastern time,...
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qaeda storm in the making. i'm very disappointed in our intelligence community, i think they failed in many ways, but with a little bit of inquiry and curiosity, i think it would be pretty clear that to explain this episode as related that created a mob that turned into a riot was far filled. and at the end of the day, we're going to get to the bottom of this. we have to have a system that we can trust. and if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. here's what i can tell you -- the american people got bad information on 16 september, they got bad information from president obama days after, and the question is, should they have been giving the information at all? if you can do nothing but give bad information, isn't it better to give no information at all? so my belief is, not only is the information bad and i'm more convinced than ever that it was bad, it was unjustified to give the scen
qaeda storm in the making. i'm very disappointed in our intelligence community, i think they failed in many ways, but with a little bit of inquiry and curiosity, i think it would be pretty clear that to explain this episode as related that created a mob that turned into a riot was far filled. and at the end of the day, we're going to get to the bottom of this. we have to have a system that we can trust. and if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push...